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Join The FREE “Paid for Life” Challenge and discover how to turn the knowledge, skills, experience, and connections you ALREADY have into highly lucrative consulting relationships that get you ownership in multiple businesses, create multiple streams of income, build wealth and much, much more, all without getting caught up in the trap that most consultants fall into of trading dollars for hours…

The Free Challenge Starts on Tuesday, July 25th, at 11 AM PT / 2 PM ET


How many times have you heard that in the past 90 days?

What if every time someone said “can I pick your brain?” you got excited because instead of a mind-numbing unpaid brain-suck, you could turn each one of those would-be “brain-pickers” into cash and equity ownership in other people’s businesses?



Helping others is one of the most rewarding activities anyone can experience.…

But, if you don’t know where to draw the line, it can also turn into a point of frustration where you find yourself giving away countless hours of your time to people who will never follow the valuable advice you share with them, much less pay you for it.

Similarly, when you do charge for your time, you can quickly find yourself on a hamster wheel of trading dollars for hours, where the only way you can make more money is to work more hours, and eventually, you either burn yourself out or hit a ceiling on the maximum amount that you can earn from consulting.

It doesn’t have to be that way!

Maybe you aren’t currently offering any kind of consulting services, but you know things and people that others would find valuable and would like to know, or maybe you ALREADY have a business where you offer your time and skills as a consultant. 

Either way, you’re going to want to read all the way through this page because this may very well be the most important thing you ever read to help you create multiple income streams and build true generational wealth.


Start by asking yourself this…

How many times in the past 90 days has someone asked you any of the following questions…

“Can I pick your brain?”

“Can I ask you something?”

“Hey, gotta minute to chat?”

“Can we hop on a call?”

“Can I buy you lunch or a cup of coffee sometime and chat”

And how many times during that same 90 days did you find yourself giving value to other people that never turned into anything valuable for you?

I found myself in that situation not that long ago. 

I was giving HUGE value to other people, helping them build their businesses but not getting paid for it and not building any wealth for myself and my family despite spending quite a bit of my time do it.

It was beyond frustrating.

I had some success in my business, and before I knew it, at every event I attended, every mastermind group I went to, every time I spoke, went to a dinner, or even checked messages on my social media accounts or email, I would get swamped with people wanting to “pick my brain” and ask me for my advice, and for the most part, if I could help or offer a solution, I would…

But, as I helped people and gave them advice on how to do some of the things I had found success doing, I noticed something…

The people I helped would come back and ask me the same questions again and again. 

It turns out they were ASKING for help, but they didn’t VALUE the advice that I gave them enough to IMPLEMENT it.  

So, they just came back asking the same questions over and over.…

Not only was it frustrating that they were ignoring my advice and not getting the benefit from following it, I found that I was spending way too much time trying to help people.


I’m very naturally a giving person at heart, and I’m guessing that you are, too. We want to help people succeed in any way we can.

But a few years back, as I sat reviewing my goals for the coming year, I realized that something had to change. 

There was no way I had the time to hit my goals if I kept doing what I was doing. There simply weren’t enough hours in the day.

And clearly my objective of offering advice and helping other people with the idea that they would then want to retain me and pay for my knowledge and advice or offer me ownership in their business in exchange for my help wasn’t working either.

One of my hopes in giving advice to others was that somehow that would turn into a working relationship or partnership, either through some paid consulting engagement or them giving me ownership in their companies in exchange for my help.

But that just wasn’t happening. Almost none of the people I helped turned into paying clients or “equity” deals. 

They were happy to hear my advice and then go off and do their own thing.

It just wasn’t working for me. Does this sound familiar?

Do you find yourself giving advice, making introductions, sharing your connections, creating proposals, pitching deals or otherwise sharing your knowledge, skills, experience and network with others but having very little to nothing to show for it in terms of money or wealth?

That’s EXACTLY where I was. 

I wanted to continue to help people, but I couldn’t allow them to keep taking up my time without my investment in them turning into something positive for BOTH of us.

Most of us live our lives trying to help others in this ONE-WAY relationship of giving for free hoping to get something back in return.


The problem with that is that unless you ASK, unless you create the opportunity for other people to INVEST in you helping them, in most cases it just won’t even occur to them.

What you need is to create a way to have a TWO-WAY relationship, where you AND the people you help give value back and forth to each other.

So, I was thinking about all this, setting my goals for the coming year and THAT’S WHEN IT HIT ME! 

Free has NO VALUE. 

When people make no investment in themselves and the advice that you give them, they simply do not value it. And that means they’re never going to follow it.

Worse still, they’re going to feel comfortable taking up your time, asking you questions, asking you to connect them to other people, all without ever even giving a thought to how valuable what you are giving is, or how valuable your time is.

I realized that if I wanted to change my life, change my income, hit my financial goals of wealth, I needed to make a SERIOUS CHANGE in how I dealt with all this advice giving.

So, I decided that the very next time someone asked me for advice, no matter when or where, I would tell them that the way I do that is through them making an $18k investment for a half-day of my time, which would allow us to meet in person or virtually for up to 4 hours. 

That was it. If they wanted to move forward they just had to let me know and I would send them a 1-page consulting agreement and wire instructions, and if not that was okay too…

And What Happened Next Was Shocking…


Without hesitation, they immediately wired me $18,000 for a 4-hour consultation. Keep in mind, this is the same type of message that, in the past, I had answered hundreds of times just giving advice for free with nothing in return.

In the past, I would have answered his questions and then just hoped that something would come from it, but because I followed my new plan and system, he wired me money that day!

In the following 18 months, I raised my fee from $18k to $25k, reduced initial meetings from 4 hours to 2 hours, and generated over 7-figures of consulting income and 8-figures of equity ownership in several businesses using this exact approach.

I call this strategy “Consulting For Equity” or CFE, and it is absolutely magical in its ability to transform your business and your life, creating both active and passive income as well as wealth.

Keep in mind this is not some “get rich quick” scheme. It takes a lot of hard work, but it’s working smart, which means that you get tremendous leverage from the work you do. 

When you are doing CFE, you’re sharing your knowledge, skill, experience, and connections with other people.


Immediate Income: You start with a paid consult, where you share the same information that you would maybe have given away for free before you learn this system.


Medium-Term Income: Next, you move into completing certain things that you agree on with your client, and in exchange for you completing those things, you receive ownership in their business which is called “equity.” As the business makes profits and distributes them, you receive income. While you are rendering services to the business, this is considered “active” income because you have to do something to receive it. 

But, once you have performed the services you agreed on, the income from your ownership interest in your client becomes “passive” because you completed the services and now are just receiving ownership distributions.

The great thing about CFE is that it scales infinitely because it does not require you to work forever to receive continuing payments. Once you complete your services to your client, you get paid FOREVER. FOR LIFE.


Long-Term Wealth: As you complete more and more CFE deals, your distributions, and therefore your income, stack and accumulate, building an ever-increasing string of cash distributions.

And not only that, because you have ownership in the businesses you worked with, when those businesses sell, you will also receive a portion of the sales proceeds!

CFE provides 3-types of income. Immediate. Short-Term. Long-term.

CFE provides active AND passive income. Active while you render the services you provide to your clients. Passive once those services are done.

The CFE strategy continues to generate 7 figures in consulting fees for me every year and millions in ownership in many different businesses.

But that’s not the best part because…


After spending 18 months refining my consultations, testing multiple offers, and narrowing down the conversations and approaches that consistently produced results, I decided to share this strategy with others… 

And the results started to pour in! 

Individuals from virtually every experience level, industry, and background were securing high-quality dream clients, effortlessly increasing their upfront fees, and consistently securing equity in great businesses using the exact same system that I created, mastered and now taught to them…

And You're Invited To Join Us For Our 3-Day PAID FOR LIFE Challenge Where We'll Show You How To Use the CFE System For Your Own Growth...

The Paid For Life Challenge is a LIVE virtual event that takes place on Zoom over 3 days.

Each day, we’ll walk you through the entire Consulting For Equity model showing you exactly how to find better clients, increase your fees, secure immediate recurring income, and equity in great businesses while escaping the “time for money” trap…

The entire process is broken down into 3 simple steps:

Positioning & Protection
Position yourself in a way that allows you to get paid immediately at premium pricing and protect yourself against personal liablity.

Source Opportunities
Build a continuous flow of high-quality opportunities and structure consultations to maximize options.

Build Wealth
Receive premium upfront fees, recurring income, or secure equity in companies that you choose to work with.

See what others have to say...

"Less than a year ago I negotiated 30+ CFE Deals. If you enroll in CFE you'll be smarter than anyone you talk to!"
Brad Himel
Closed 30+ CFE Deals
"I had a client who hasn't paid me in 6 months, so I used what I learned in CFE and negotiated an equity deal!"
Prescott Paulin
Turns Loss Into A WIN
"I just closed my first CFE consultation for a higher amount than I've ever asked for before in my first 90 days!"
Christopher W.
First High Ticket Client
"I negotiated an increddible 4 event deal for a 25% rev share and opened a pipeline for new deals on the way"
Joseph Aaron
25% Rev Share Deal
"2 weeks ago I used CFE to negotiate a 10% to 20% equity deal from a 2-hour consultation with a former partner."
Erwin DeGrave
Turns Loss Into A WIN
"This program has blown my mind and empowered me in a way that allows me to help so many different people."
Danielle Cantin
First High Ticket Client

Don't Allow Your Genius To Be Someone Else's Retirement...

By the end of this 3-Day Challenge You'll Know How To:

The 3-Day PAID FOR LIFE Challenge Breakdown

Day 1: Turn your knowledge, skills, experience and connections into a profitable business

On day one, we’ll break down exactly how you can create a profitable business with your existing skills, expertise, or passion and take advantage of the income opportunities that are right in front of you.

If you already have a consulting business, or you are a speaker, author, expert, agency owner, service provider, you have a great network of connections or just happen to have one or more particular skills you excel at, you’ll learn how to convert those into active and passive income and wealth.

On day one, you’ll discover:

  • The critical paradigm shift that allows you to start identifying profitable opportunities that no one else will recognize…
  • How to quickly turn “gotta minute”, “can I pick your brain” sessions into paid consults and deals in a way that makes people feel good about doing business with you…
  • How to charge premium prices for your advice, expertise, or passion, even if you’ve never done consulting before…
  • Why your personal results are irrelevant and how to use the hidden advantages behind a “leveraged wealth” model…
  • And Much More…

Day 2: How To Find Your Dream Clients And Partnerships

On day 2, you’ll learn the driving force behind finding the perfect clients who desperately looking and ready to pay for what you have to offer. 

After day 2, you’ll walk away knowing:

  • How to find an endless flow of potential clients, partnerships, and contacts regardless of your existing network or following…
  • How to confidently connect with the right people, even if you shiver at the thought of making contact…
  • The most effective and low-pressure word-for-word scripts to naturally engage and convert conversations into new clients…
  • How to avoid the #1 deal-killing mistake “consultants” make and the simple change that creates maximum value every time…
  • And Much More…

Day 3: Upfront Fees, Securing Equity, and Building Wealth

Day 3 is where we get into the fun part! During this session, you’ll learn the key factors that drive your results, including: 

  • How to determine your fees and use “Guaranteed” Equity models to get paid full value for every deal you make…
  • How to transition from consultation to equity ownership in a low-pressure way that is still incredibly effective and comfortable… 
  • Real world Consulting For Equity Deals and examples shared by our special guests who breakdown how they closed each deal…
  • The different compensation models you can use and how you can leverage each of these options for growth….
  • And MUCH More…


Our goal is to see you through results… but you can’t get results if you don’t take action. 

Whether you’re a seasoned investor or just getting started with your first consulting client…

Join us for the 3-Day Paid For Life Challenge and we’ll show you exactly how to increase your fees, work with better clients and be paid premium prices for your advice, expertise, or passion.

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Starting on Tuesday, August 22nd, 2023 at 11 AM PT / 2 PM ET